Burner, that this?

[sociv]

The good evening, gentlemen are jewellers.
You will excuse, that I invade your precious cenosts, but I hope to find in you . itself to the jeweller's matter I have not what relation, I am occupied . the manufacture of screw propellers it arose problem before the work with brazing metal. Tested by me several serial gas burners of particular enthusiasm did not cause.
Prompt if you please scheme of the simple burner (gasoline or gaseous) of the capable of heating details from the bronze and brasses, with weight to 50 to facts - 1000.
It with the respect.

[Constontime E]

Before the order. The first why temperature under 1000 degrees? I suppose that also 500-774degrees will be more than sufficiently. It is not mandatory to use brass solder. Completely will go silver. The second escapes from the first. Completely will approach serial gas burners. Possibly even with the .

[GM]

Gasoline , this of buoys (system of hookah) before it fill opening of gasoline, so, two to tube one is submerged before non, another from above the gasoline, to the tube which before the gasoline are connected up the bellows, is possible to replace for the sake of the frog (they inflate rubber boat), so is used compressor, to the tube on top, we connect (cost of 1000 rubles before magician. SE. .)
by manual gaseous are soldered , maximum to splint in ring, to warm up 50. it is unreal in my view!
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[Constontime E]

It is possible indeed to gain not manual gas burner. Its power with the head will suffice to melt even palladium white gold. Moreover it is in no way mandatory to gain greater gas cylinder. But with the gasoline there are many excess problems. Relatively complex cylinder, presence of compressor (frog so forth) yes even gasoline special it is must, but not “95”.

[GM]

If we use only gas (propane) without oxygen, then you even silver, gasoline system is considerably simpler, full-valued post, and it is cheaper, it is safer.
As fuel it is possible to use, acetone, solvent, all brands of non, it is checked personally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Principal moment to draw off the developed gasoline!!!!!
There was work experience on to gas, it , too heavy a pistol, and inflexible hoses!!!!!!
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[Constontime E]

“If we use only gas (propane) without oxygen, then you even silver, gasoline system is considerably simpler, full-valued post, and it is cheaper, it is safer.” More than ten years I work on propane and it did not appear difficulties with melting of precious metals (silver and gold, it is understood). And hoses now are completely flexible, are convenient for the manipulation. In no way I can find as to lay out photo, but that would show. In order to not down some words.

[sociv]

Good evening, . at the point of the responses.
The named by me temperature in 1000 degrees of to . solder to make I do not know how, on this of to gain before the . melting point of majority of them lies within limits of 900 . in one, with the content of silver, in limits of 700, but the price beyond the limits.
By the gas burner it tried, solder to melt is possible but procurement insufficiently is thoroughly warmed.
To what extent is safe gasoline burner, for the utilization before the household conditions?
What gasoline of the higher temperature (highly or low- octane)?
What volume of air is desired for the burner, approach- whether low-power compressor for the paint sprayer?
Possible- whether about jet itself burner?
It is very many grateful.

[GM]

Constantine E, you the system of gaseous post, to me it is incomprehensible as it is possible to work on one propane without oxygen!
saciv, silver solder, can be made independently the same , on 1 deg of silver, put 0,5 deg of brass, to , to roll out before the rollers to 0,4 millimeters (plate) to clean by hide, and it is possible to solder.
(pistol) to do is possible, but I advise to buy (safer), in the magazine of jeweller's tool (1000)
Gasoline is safe, principal time from to draw off the developed gasoline.
Me pleases 76 gasoline, it works longer, temperature is sufficient, fused on 250 deg gold, so palladium and other (it oscillated )
I prefer frog, but for this are necessary skill, low-power compressor of , I advise to fit compressor from the cooler. (necessarily the minimum of 2 atmosphere)
Yes even do not forget about flux, universal (gold silver) 50 deg augers, 50 deg boric acid on 100 deg of water.
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[Constontime E]

before the meaning how to work on the gas without oxygen? Burner is calculated at the point of the straight pressure based on the cylinder, without any reduction gear. In the construction of burner is envisaged “”, even adjustable, through which enters air. When I began to work, then he put to use gasoline burner. Best gasoline for it galosh. This clean like. Not what automobile was poured never beside it. Now completely it changed down the gas and it is very satisfied. I work at home, the volumes of works are not very great, one cylinder (40) is sufficient for two years. If we do not melt each day by tons. Of there is no stench as from the gasoline before the mention. Yes, a little gas is inferior about the temperature, but it completely is sufficient down all forms of works. Last year I put to use Polish gas burner, if now it comes out, then I will show. Suddenly completely it did not answer, then request still. I will thus far gather text, so I lose the thought

[Constontime E]

Aha! It found as to stick photo! I will now show burner nearer. This of nozzle “number 1” or the smallest. In comparison with the first , evidently the working range of flame.

[Constontime E]

The attachment is number 3, maximum. It is included on down the maximum

[Constontime E]

As I spoke, burner was furnished “for the sake of carburetor”. Strictly I itself his earlier itself made, on the old burner, and here the industrialists were conjectured themselves it to place. useful thing, I must to you note! Hope understandably as he it works.

[Constontime E]

But burner works here from this cylinder. If whom seems size it is biggish, then it is possible to find cylinder and a little less. Videlas different, up to the liter, it seems.

[Constontime E]

burner before the work. Attachment of 1, the minimum of . It is extremely convenient to solder chains. (my personal opinion) if are necessary the refinements of favor to , you go, I will answer.

[sociv]

Good evening, by all.
Peace was divided beside two camps, the adherents of gas and followers to . being the fan neither of that nor other, I accept the opinion of of . me importantly the correspondence of burner to several conditions:
1. of the temperature of necessary for the soldering (supposedly 1000 degrees)
2.. since I work . to the same reason compactness.
Question to Constantine.
As to attain the correct control of . of your photos the spectrum of flame appears sufficiently . it tried THIS burner, also it melts down with the ., but detail thoroughly warms not . I correctly did not adjust.

[Constontime E]

About two camps of the lovers of gas and gasoline. We forgot one moment the price. First gas itself more cheaply will be bridged, and secondly set burner/cylinder with the gas is also cheaper. Moreover nothing it is not at all necessary to as with the gasoline version. Everything is sold ready. That it did sole, this connected the hose of burner and hose from the cylinder. He forgot about the price of the very burner of 80 dollars. Into framing it enters three interchangeable nozzles, hose under two meters and something there also how I never put to use. On the spectrum of fire. First of all this influences temperature. Unfortunately it did not devise as well to do photo of flame, there is no “” I put to use camera based on . To mean before the words: the spectrum (and mixture strength gas/air) is regulated based on the green needle (central tag of fire) in this case flame very soft, it is enriched by gas, to the sharply blue, with which even sound is changed as far as cutting, when there is much air before the mixture. Accordingly temperature very strongly is changed. Is adjusted all this by that “carburetor”, that on the nozzles. I.e. is more than air = above temperature, and vice versa. On the safety. More than ten years stand cylinder before the house, no one heard odor. It is understood to natural close over it beyond the night and if works with the soldering/by melting are not conducted. He forgot if I am not mistaken, then obtain 1200 degrees based on the gas not problem. For the comparison pure palladium is not sufficient to melt literally barely. It is fused but to liquid condition it does not convert. Before the alloy with gold without the problems. Well and about compactness. Take small cylinder, liters down five and will in sight remain only burner and hose aha, here still. Burner which about the reference, most likely (there is suspicion) in it nozzle it does not give central tongue of flame (needle) and without it flame is loose and not to remove based on it the high temperature

[sociv]

Good day, by all.
2 Constantine.
Thanks at the point of . it bought to itself The . temperature of warm-up 850 degrees, I hope to . it did not try, I will be tomorrow played.
By all great thanks.

[Constontime E]

Completely it must approach about the idea. Will be desirable to select solder not too high-melting, silver. If fire there will be loose and smoking (with the color against the end), then try “to dispose carburetor”. Smokes little air, fire hot. If native air-inlet apertures it is small, then we boldly bore out more. Well a little at angle so that as if airflow less was bent. But if too blue a flame, then we conversely cover apertures. The simplest air regulator can be done from the stria of armature plate metal, coagulated by tube and by them closed over air holes.

[sociv]

Good evening, by all.
2 Constantine: It today tested burner, temperature there is no flame 1400 degrees 2100 without ., the apparently this fact- Ra was available with other . and by this by that - it is sufficient for the work copperphosphoric solder fact- synhesma 730 degrees.
Again vast thanks at the point of the consultation.

[Juleo D.]

If it is honest, without the reduction gear I am scared to work with the propionic .
But now I see that it is possible down straight- this much more convenient
I will try.

[Constontime E]

Julia D., this truth is in no way dangerous. But beyond the night or before another time do not forget to close over cylinder. This elementary . and it is more than nothing. If it is honest, then without the reduction gear there not such already and greater pressure.

[Juleo D.]

VAST THANKS!!!! , respected Constantine E!

[mes08]

Constantine- E! I comprehended, in you burner that it is must! To me such.
Prompt, where it is possible to buy, precisely, Polish as in you.
It is ready to buy ..
With the respect.

[GM]

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[Constontime E]

“very strangely that people bomb in the apartment! you look ?” But that here such? I grew with this cylinder on the kitchen and I relate absolutely peacefully down his presence before the dwelling. But elementary no one abolished. /“Prompt, where it is possible to buy, precisely, Polish as in you.” Oh… As this to explain… It was bought in the small magazine, affiliate like some of net. .. does seem me still they did request about the dimensions of attachment for the burner? recently I will be gathered and will remove them. I think, there and very it is possible everything to do.

[mes08]

Constantine E!
I will wait photo or the diagram of attachment. The fact is that other burners do not have such that concentrated of flame- needle, it looked the burners of firm Rothenberg and that which sells Ruta, but all not that.
There is experience of the manufacture of gasoline burners, and it is here before the propionic
with the nozzles problem, I cannot attain grow prettier needle, the flame
loose and not hot, the controls of gas and air do not help.
Apparently, all matter in the construction of attachment.

[Constontime E]

Rothenberg are good for melting the metal. Videlas such before the work. They give good of fire, but thick. To solder is not very convenient. I will try on the output to be gathered with the spirit and to lay out here at least one attachment for the gas burner. But there fully turning work, if it does not confuse, then must everything come out. It is engineering, construction not complex.

[mes08]

I will try on the output to be gathered with the spirit and to lay out here at least one attachment for the gas burner.
Constantine E! , , at least briefly, and if photo or diagram- will be healthy!

[LOE71]

Old anecdote: “- Leonid Ilyich. The people complains. Is conveniently bottle opened…” (instead of the filler plug - it was “cap”).
Here - and to me it is not understandable. Never he thought - that this is great problem.
Quotation:
Peace was divided beside two camps, the adherents of gas and the followers of gasoline.
The blowpipe set. It works both on the gas and on the gasoline. - It did not try with oxygen (it was not represented this need).
Similar before sale - no and it will not be. It made according to diagrams based on one log. Only it finished. Gates were placed. Smallest attachment - for the delicate soldering. All four numbers - keep needle…
To whom it is must - it can do itself. For Constantine - laid out here this model. There is nothing complex - here… well and by remaining - now the large selection of the models of burners in the magazines.