workshop at home

[Maroh]

Good time to . in me the desire to gather at home simplest workshop . of beginning decided to gather simplest . it did not unfortunately find the diagram even of simplest . you similar they do not strongly stretch help if you please information.

[Albilt]

But on what fuel you do wish work- natural gas, propane, butane, acetylene, gasoline? And that precisely you do wish make- to melt, to solder? and with what metalsilver, gold, platinum, iridium, titanium? Most likely to you very to gather itself pistol- burner, yes even is unsafe this.

[Maroh]

Good time of day, Albert.
The diagram of gasoline burner interests me, the diagram of pistol as basic and most complex part, is concretely necessary. I know safety engineering - since he already worked by this tool (at one time it was trained at the point of this , but to finish training it was impossible). For the beginning it would be desirable to work with silver or by bronze, on how much I remember both materials they are low-melting and they excellently yield to casting.
Previously many thanks.

[Albilt]

Respected you selected the riskiest version, the gasoline pistol, of all available on the market. The secondly, this still and least . The century is archaic -18 before the third, this. Silver you will certainly melt by gasoline burner, but not very large number, those this approximately of one-two rings, maximum 30-40 deg.
I do not doubt about your technical abilities to gather burner, yes even entire apparatus generally. But speaking about experience and , I bore in mind exploitation. I myself lost two friends of experienced jewellers, simply they burnt, and in 40 years of work it heard numerous sad histories about similar cases.
The gasoline burner of thus that is necessary to pump through air through with the gasoline blowing out from there only vapors of gasoline. To carry out this is possible or oscillating by one strut forging bellows, hope that you they are young and strong physically and vestibular apparatus in you is not thus far still disturbed, but before the same time itself your attention before melting of the metal. Or instead of your strut, you connect compressor which it oscillates air without the stop, but in this case you do not control the force of flame, this makes still riskier since frequently with the pairs it is covered and liquid gasoline. By the way this can occur, also, during the fluctuation of bellows by strut. Some used a vacuum cleaner, but beside this the case of thermal calories it is sufficient only for soldering the fine details. By the way you will surely easily find ancient gasoline pistol and to make not necessary. Approach down the dinner or toward the end workday the emergence based on the dental laboratory you will request in dental technicians, they earlier greater than jewellers put to use gasoline pistols, and jewellers preferred .

[alehsl]

Good day
The detailed scheme of gasoline burner it is possible to find before the books the jeweller's matter Of before i.
http://nexutlit.ro/1/2564/
Many jewellers before today prefer gasoline burner THIS SIMPLY AND CONVENIENTLY WITH THE GASOLINE OF PROBLEMS THERE IS NO A HERE WITH GASEOUS PROBLEM YES AND GAS IN OF ITS TERRIBLE QUALITY THEY DILUTE SOME BY THE FLUID AND BURNER CONSTANTLY IS CLOGGED

[Albilt]

Charming receptors it are paralyzed with the very insignificant gas escape and the presence of gas is not felt, for this down the gas is added parfume which it has specific sharp it smelled and it helps to discover leakage. But contamination proceeds faster based on mud beside the system- feeding hoses of tube reduction gear of the connection of branching. Rubber in hoses must be specially for the concrete gas, otherwise gas or the same parfume rubber and garbage flies across supply system. Garbage can fall, also, during the replacement of the cylinders of gas or oxygen - small pieces of bronze, tape and the rest A that actually who that today still works on the gasoline? But you, alexzl, themselves how you do put to use, are simply very interesting?
The last time it edited: Albert (65-01-200751:22 th), in all edited 1 time

[atnin]

I know on my vehicle, which worked on the gas (even before the Sov. times) that oily fluid before the gas - this is the common gaseous condensate, which must be accumulated before the sump and be drawn off. If gas is badly purified of condensate - that it are accumulated large numbers.
So that this not - and .

[Albilt]

It is completely agreeable with you, a change of the humidity before the system is this still one important factor.

[alehsl]

The search for normal gas producer this is the problem to just as seek normal gasoline, vodka and . unfortunately of producers not the quality of commodity and rapid

[alehsl]

Respected Albert your advice from America are not consistent with reality to beside , work the floor of year and then advise having experience…. and beside on other
I live before Europe but beside Russia it is necessary to drive fairly often and I know entire situation and constantly I associate with the associates

[Maroh]

Albert, I understand entire risk whom it is connected for the sake of the gasoline burner, even before my very modest practice there were sufficiently risky moments connected for the sake of this tool. But as wrote alexzl - for the space this the actually best emergence. Moreover I do not think that gas considerably safer. In any event thanks above information and warning.
2alexzl: But to you the many thanks at the point of the book, this the copy of that which to me fell into hands before the process of training.
And by the way concerning melting it threw by gasoline. As shows my personal experience - compressor from the cooler that connected down the small tank it is capable to melt silver, gold and platinum before the sufficiently fair weight. But this so, from a series, the poor down the fabrications it is sly. As they speak in the Ukraine “above the lack of miss they sleep with the cook”
The many thanks with all at the point of the information given. And subsequently I hope at the point of your aid!

[Anix]

How do you do! I got in beside your theme about the burners! I myself put to use (on the work) the small of the production of the USA - it is dear, but it is simply miraculous! fuel- propane + oxygen. In me always tormented the idea to use gas + air (++) for the household conditions! - to solder or still something. (I I understand, what with oxygen cannot be then worked then because of oil from the compressor). How you do think? this is possible? someone similar does work?

[Juleo D.]

Burner, urgent for the jeweller question.
In the school of jeweller's skill (Saint Petersburg) I learned on the gasoline burner.
With it worked at home - was used propionic and it is very satisfied, the main thing to always follow the condition of apparatus ( propane-reduction gear-hose- burner (so that there would be no leakage))- it is very satisfied!!!
On the work immediately ordered propionic burner- all simply, on are for long sufficient , the convenient- casting, annealing, soldering any complexity- I remained satisfied, wonderfully he is suitable for gold and silver, it did not try on ..

[Constontime E]

Conversations about the burners are today timely The generally minimum necessary framing somewhat more. This and rollers, and drill with the seamount of periphery. It forgot drawing dies! To transfer everyone -clipper- slim-nose pliers there is no meaning now we go beside the bank above gold/by silver, then above copper (it is earlier down the dump, and where now…) and it is possible to begin to work.

[Juleo D.]

Quotation:
Conversations about the burners are today timely The generally minimum necessary framing somewhat more. This and rollers, and drill with the seamount of periphery. It forgot drawing dies! To transfer everyone -clipper- slim-nose pliers there is no meaning now we go beside the bank above gold/by silver, then above copper (it is earlier down the dump, and where now…) and it is possible to begin to work.
precisely In- in this - burner, with respect to other tools, not so much place occupies and not so is expensive and you will not do by one burner in all

[Constontime E]

It is here interesting, and on what now decent manual rollers? Strictly i already have, but they do interestingly make them to order or there are ready before sale, cost?